DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: How do you make it so that dysfunctional relationships with your family of origin don’t carry forward to your future romantic relationships? And how do you help your bf understand that is the case?
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I’m asking because my boyfriend (31M) spent Thanksgiving with me (36F) and my parents (70s) and was able to meet them for the first time. While he was there, he noted that I really do not help them with the housework/dishes. At all.
This is entirely accurate; I don’t. When I was growing up, they were both a mess of (probably) untreated OCD and hoarding disorder, and my mother used housework as a tool of power and control. Some examples.
– I would clear out the clutter in my room to have livable space, and my mom would “rescue” utterly unusable items from the trash and donation pile and keep them, or insist that I kept them, and then stuff the cleared-out livable space in my room with more utter junk, even when I begged her to please leave things as they were because it was comfortable now.
– If I (a child) was a little rough with or damaged anything in the house, no matter how minor, my dad would corner us and scream at us. He did this to one of my cousins and their family stopped visiting.
– Any time I did help out with dishes, etc. I would get a lecture on how they had this amazing system for folding the damp paper towel as I was dusting/loading the dishwasher/bagging groceries at the store, and I wasn’t meeting their exact expectations.
– I went to an extremely rigorous private school whose homework workload ate up most of my outside-of-school time. (No, seriously– I would get home, start in on homework, and be done around 11 PM. The students who played sports were routinely up until 1 or 2 AM.) The rare occasions when I did have time off, and tried to get together with friends, my mom would make me cancel my plans and do cleaning projects instead.
– At extended family events, the women did all of the cooking and cleaning, and the men sat around and talked. Misogynist garbage.
…anyway, we can debate how much of this was real abuse vs. kid not understanding household needs, but the point is that I grew up with the strong impression that the whole system was sexist, my housework efforts were useless anyway, and it was really just an opportunity for me to get screamed at. You can understand how my #1 coping mechanism was not to engage. It took me well into adulthood to figure out how doing chores and running a household worked and find a system that worked for me, and really, it’s still a work in progress.
Anyway, when I started staying over a BF’s place, I made a point of noticing what and how much he did in there by way of cleaning, and undertaking part of that myself, and cleaning up messes where I saw them, and asking him afterwards if I had, say, cleaned up the kitchen to his satisfaction. Again, I had no real model for how to do this! I just watched and asked questions. But what we have going on now seems to be working, and the house is clean enough and nobody feels taken advantage of, so, yay.
But then my bf said that after Thanksgiving and I was worried that he was judging me. I tried to explain about my earlier life and all, but my parents were on their best behavior around him and he didn’t see any of the yelling or power plays or petty sniping. Obviously one option would be to just help my parents with the stupid dishes already, but they’re never open to a discussion of how to, you know, not scream at me and all the times I tried helping in adulthood only resulted in more of the same.
Anyway, help? I want to be responsible and not a freeloader, but I also like having my dignity.
Signed,
I wish dishes were just dishes
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DEAR I WISH DISHES WERE JUST DISHES: Alright first of all IWDWJD: politeness and being a considerate guest doesn’t mean signing up for being yelled at or insulted, especially for no reason, even when it’s your parents.
Hell, some would say ESPECIALLY when it’s your parents.
I’m not Miss Manners, so I’m not going to say that you did wrong by not offering to help or whatever. While I imagine the vibe may – and we’ll come back to this – have been strained while you were at your folks’ for Thanksgiving, the dynamic of how your family had treated you (and others!) growing up has given you every incentive not to go along just to get along. Certainly not when going along doesn’t actually lead to the “getting along” part. I think refusing to participate in a system that has only served to cause you pain and misery is entirely justified.
Now, what I am wondering is whether there’s an actual problem here, or if the anxiety weasels are bouncing around for no real reason. You mention that your boyfriend made a comment that you hadn’t helped with the dishes. I can understand why this would make you anxious, especially since you’ve been stressed, but I think from his perspective, this would seem out of character for you. After all, you not only have made a point of helping and doing chores at his place, but you made a point of making sure to learn how to do it his way. The fact that you would do this for him but not your parents might strike him as being strange. After all: if you’re that conscientious about it, wouldn’t you also be as conscientious about it with your parents?
This is why I’m not sure that he was judging you, so much as trying to make sense of a seeming contradiction. It’s understandable that you’d worry – you’ve faced harsh judgement and criticism for most of your life – but I don’t know that this is necessarily what’s happening here. I think it’s most likely that he’s just trying to make sense of the difference between the you who stays with him and the you he saw around your parents.
Now, one thing that might explain any disconnect he was feeling would be how much your boyfriend knew about your parents and your experiences growing up before all this. Did he get the broad brush strokes about things like your mom’s hoarding tendencies or the way your parents would treat you and other family members? Or did he only get the download after he met your parents?
In both cases, I could see how the story vs. what he saw would be confusing. I would hope, at least, that he knows people well enough to know that s--tty people can hide their s--ttiness when they choose. Similarly, I would hope that he knows and trusts you enough to not just assume you’re lying out of hand.
Seeing as you’re not a freeloader by any stretch in the rest of your life, I think what you’re feeling are the anxiety weasels gnawing on sensitive parts of your brain. Considering your childhood, I’m not the least bit surprised that you’re hypervigilant to other people’s moods; you basically had to be, growing up. But the problem is that our defense mechanisms don’t go away once we’re out of the situation where they’re needed. It’s not that unusual for the things that used to protect us outliving their usefulness and going on to become a hindrance instead.
Unless your boyfriend has said anything or is acting weird – and I mean notably weird, not “If I parse his body language and vocal tonality in this particular way and assume Y, then this would suggest he is secretly judging me” hypervigilance – I think it’s just garden variety confusion. You obviously make a point of trying to be a good partner and houseguest, you keep your own place clean, so this one difference is going to be odd to someone who doesn’t know your history. Now he does, and hopefully he’ll be more alert to how your parents act.
With all that being said: I would really suggest that you talk to a therapist, especially someone who deals with childhood abuse and C-PTSD. I know words like “trauma” get tossed around freely, but trauma doesn’t just come from being hit or physically abused, nor from being screamed at constantly. Constant mistreatment and toxic behavior – like, say, having your room used for storage to the point that you couldn’t even live in it – can cause trauma as well, especially when it’s been going on for years and you can’t get away.
The anxiety you mention and the hypervigilance stand out to me, and I think it would be good to talk to a professional about it. I think it might really benefit you to talk to someone about it and possibly get some tools to help manage those feelings.
But in terms of your boyfriend and his response? I don’t think you have to worry, especially if he understands what you went through growing up.
Good luck.
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