DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: You’ve addressed similar questions before, but I wanted to come at my problem in more specific terms. I’m a 42M virgin. Never been in a relationship. Lots of reasons, but I would say the first is because I prioritized other things when I was younger and always thought there’d be time.
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A close second, though, would be that I’m very reluctant to aggressively “chase” women. I’m not at all proactive when it comes to romance. Basically, every woman I’ve ever been attracted to had options, and I just wasn’t interested in competing with other men to get their attention. I also have a hard time giving off “sexual vibes” and breaking the touch barrier with women I’m attracted to. These passive traits of mine have always been a huge detriment to me, but especially at this age, where I feel most women expect the man to take the lead.
My question, then: Is it possible for me to become more aggressive in my pursuits, given my personality and lack of experience? If so, how can I go about learning this behavior without fundamentally changing who I am? Conversely, are there any other options for me to find a partner outside of “fixing” these issues of mine, or am I otherwise a lost cause?
Thanks for your advice!
Whose Move Is It?
DEAR WHOSE MOVE IS IT: I think you’re asking the wrong question, WMII. Especially since your question is “how do I make this change without actually changing” which is, y’know, not possible.
The issue is that you’re framing this as passivity, rather than confronting the real issue: you don’t feel like women would be interested in you, and you’re avoiding the possibility of rejection because of it. This is the root issue of a lot of approach anxiety; 9 times out of 10, people who deal with approach anxiety are ultimately dealing with the fear that they aren’t “good” enough for the women they want to date. They’re afraid that there’s just no “there” there, no reason for women to be interested in continuing the conversation or even to acknowledge them in the first place. The passivity is a cover for this anxiety – it gives a permission structure for doing nothing without acknowledging the actual underlying fear.
I suspect that this is also part of why “you always thought there’d be time”; the time that you thought you had more of wasn’t “I’d have more available spoons” so much as a point where you wouldn’t feel like you had to keep putting it off.
I mean, it doesn’t exactly take Sherlock Holmes or Sigmund Freud to see this; the comments about women “having options” and “competing with other men for her attention” are pretty glaring in their obviousness. Why would she be interested in you if she had other possible suitors? What would motivate her to keep engaging with you when other people – handsomer, more charming, more interesting, “better” people – exist and may even be in the same bar as you? The same goes with not being good at giving off “sexual vibes”; you can’t really give them off if you don’t think you have any sex appeal to start with.
Here’s the thing: this is all about avoiding the discomfort of making yourself vulnerable and risking rejection by people who would be “confirming” that you’re not “good enough”. After all, if a woman ultimately made the first move, that would imply that she is so strongly attracted to you that she was motivated to buck socialization and do the heavy lifting for you, so you don’t have to worry about that fear of her realizing that you weren’t worth her time. That’s what this all comes down to: waiting for someone else to alleviate your fears for you, rather than confronting them yourself. If I had a nickel for every time I dealt with someone who expressed a variation of those comments, I could buy a really nice mid-life-crisis-mobile – maybe that Chevy Thriftmaster restomod I’ve dreamed about for years. I know matte black is kind of a cliché, but with some cherry wood paneling and chrome finishes to contrast on the interior…
Sorry, got distracted for a moment there.
The point is that you see women as being the ultimate arbiters of who gets dates – the gatekeepers of sex – and as such, they’re supposedly incentivized to only pay attention to “the best”.
This is just another variation of the whole “20% of men date 80% of the women” s—t that goes around every few months, and it all comes down to this weird belief that women are weighing each guy they meet against all the others and only choosing the “top” options. Except that’s not how people actually date. Guys aren’t being measured against one another, it’s whether she likes you or doesn’t like you. You’re not “competing” against other men, you’re competing against a night at home alone with a glass of wine, Nobody Asked For This queued up and a romantic interlude with Bob the Battery Operated Boyfriend. And even if she’s seeing other people while also seeing you, it’s still a question of how she feels about you, specifically, not “how do she feels about you in comparison to Tim, Dashell and/or Horton.”
(I would also point out that you have options as well, just like women do – whether you notice those options or like them doesn’t change the fact that you have them. And women, too, have to “compete” for men’s attention; in fact, that notion’s so normalized and mainstream that it’s easy to forget that just how much content there is out there for women that’s all about how to capture and keep a guy’s attention and out-compete other women…)
So if you want to learn to be more assertive and to take the initiative, you’re going to have to let go of the idea that this is all due to inherent passivity and instead focus on how you feel about yourself. You have to be your first, biggest and most vocal supporter, hype man and cheerleader; if you don’t believe in your own worth and your own value, nobody else is going to do it for you. You have to treat your being a virgin – older or not – as being an individual data point, rather than something shameful or definitional. And not the most relevant or important data point either, just one individual aspect of who you are.
Feeling more confident in yourself and what you bring to the table cuts through the anxiety because now you don’t feel like you have to “justify” your interest in someone else. Instead, you’re in a place where you can come to every interaction with “ok, I know you’re attractive, but what about you makes you a good match for me?” Instead of seeing it as “I have to compete for her attention” or “I have to prove I’m the best option” – and thus, coming to the interaction from a place of insecurity – you’re able to focus on getting to know the other person, connecting with them and seeing them as a potential partner, rather than someone who’s approval you have to not just seek but drag up from negative numbers.
That also means that you’re going to have to be comfortable with seeing yourself as a sexual being – not just sexually desirable but someone who is sexual. You can’t give “sexual” vibes if you feel like you’re null or unsexy. The fact that you haven’t had sex doesn’t preclude you from having sexuality. Being a virgin or not is just a matter of having had a specific experience. Sexuality is your relationship with sex and with yourself. It’s in as much in how you move, how you carry yourself and how you interact with other people as it is what bases you’ve hit or how many people you’ve made squishy noises with. Part of what makes Regé-Jean Page sexy in Bridgerton is the way that he makes something as simple as eating from a spoon is a sensual act. It’s a literal performance and one that is practiced, not inherent because he ticked off enough notches in his bedpost and leveled up.
Does the fact that you’re a virgin limit you? No. Your attitude about being a virgin does. So does your relationship with yourself, your body, your everything. If you can learn to see yourself as a sexy, sexy man and how to express it, being a virgin becomes a quirk or possibly even a value-add for people. And part of understanding your value means being willing to dismiss people who do have a problem with your virginity as being a bad match for you, rather than seeing it as proof that there’s something wrong with you.
And yes, this will require making changes to who you are as a person. Trying to accomplish this without actually changing just means that you’re putting up a false front, a potentially pleasing façade with no substance. Those are the sorts of tricks that pick-up artists have been trying for decades and not only do they not work, they actually hinder you because you will always know that it’s fake and be waiting for the moment that women will realize it.
And they will. Like I said: PUAs have been pulling that s—t for decades and women aren’t stupid.
Now to be sure, there’s nothing wrong with not being the more aggressive partner in the relationship, nor is there a problem with being drawn to women who are more aggressive or assertive than you. But even someone who’s less assertive has to actually put themselves out there. The (still) popular belief that all a woman has to do is exist in order to get dates and attention is based out of not recognizing or understanding the amount of effort that women put into being approachable. Between styling and presentation, trying to signal interest without being too obvious and often straining their backs by trying to carry on a conversation all by themselves with a guy who never asks a single question about them, even women who take a more “traditional” role in the approach/approached dynamic are doing a metric f--kton of work.
So if you want to be approached rather than doing the approaching, you’re going to have to be willing to make similar efforts… and even then you’re going to have to take steps to try to find the women who are more interested in taking the lead. And that’s not going to happen if you don’t actually believe in your own worth first; if you don’t see it in yourself, other folks simply aren’t going to be so motivated to do it for you. And even then, that’s not going to make you immune to rejection. As any woman who’s been approached can tell you, someone else making the first move doesn’t mean they won’t reject you. It just means they decided to make the first move.
So stop thinking of this in terms of “passivity” and instead start confronting the underlying anxiety. Passivity is the way you’re trying to protect yourself from what you fear. Focus on building up the substance, recognizing your own value and becoming more in tune with yourself as a sexual being. Once you start believing in that, the rest is a matter of practice.
Good luck.
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