DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: My husband suggested recently we move to a cheaper city so we could buy a house in cash, free and clear. He also detests this area for a number of reasons, homelessness, high cost of living, etc. But the way I look at it, it would disrupt a pretty good situation we have right now, and there are other options that he refuses to consider.
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We rent in a major west coast city with our adolescent daughter and two dogs. Cost of living is exorbitant and since I started my own firm it’s been a struggle to survive financially, but we have a very large reserve to tap for a few years. Also my firm is starting to show success and I’m seeing life at the end of the tunnel.
My husband has a decent contract with local government, loves his manager and has a good opportunity to get a full time job with excellent benefits. Finding a job he likes has been a major struggle the 14 years we’ve been married so the fact he loves management is huge.
Our daughter is thriving at her middle school where she’s one of the top students and beloved by many there. The school navigated the pandemic very well and our daughter made some very close friends.
So I was stunned when my husband became committed to leaving this area ASAP because he “hates what this area represents”, seeing how many people struggle with housing (he works with the homeless). I’ve tried my best to come up with alternatives:
Move later, once my firm is stable enough to make a decent monthly income. He says that may never happen and he doesn’t trust that I’ll move if it is successful.
He moves first, buys a house, either a) with our daughter or b) without our daughter and we’ll move later. That would require my finding a cheap apartment. Again he says we should stay together and he doesn’t trust I’ll move and/or having two homes defeats the purpose of saving money.
I move first to establish my firm and he stay with our daughter here. Again we’re split up and two locations.
Find a cheaper place here but it would not be as nice as we could get in another city. But this doesn’t work because he hates the area.
My husband says I’m unwilling to compromise because his true dream is to move to Europe where he’s from but will stay in the US since I can’t run my firm from there for regulatory reasons (otherwise I’d explore it). Since I don’t want to close my firm, his compromise is staying in the US. He’s furious with me for not making a definitive answer quickly and I admit I’m all over the place, saying maybe it would work and then changing my mind when I think about how:
He’d have to quit and get a new job which he’s not good at doing.
We have limited health insurance due to his contract situation but we’d have no health insurance if we move.
He only has a network in our current home city and that took him ages to cultivate since he’s introverted
His distrusting me, saying I’m not working with him and that I won’t “prove my love to risk” a move.
That he has sacrificed too much by moving here to be with me and now it’s my turn.
My issue is not the moving part, it’s the timing and his attitude—all or nothing but seems to be characterizing me as the selfish one.
Do I risk it? Am I being too fearful? The ironic point of it is that he’s recommending towns where I have lots of relationships and could possibly build a client base (although premature). I’m likely to be the best off after a move but adding an unemployed, angry husband who doesn’t trust me and a teen who is totally against moving makes it less interesting.
He’s flipped out since our discussion that went really wrong since he won’t believe I’m willing to compromise and because I throw out different options he sees that as stalling. It ended with some really awful things said.
What do I do? I don’t want to split and we are in the best financial shape now so moving out for either of us would make things even worse. I said let’s make a decision next year and he said no it has to be in 3 months.
Torn to Pieces
DEAR TORN TO PIECES: I’m not entirely sure what’s going on with your husband, TTP, but I’m betting that where you live isn’t the real issue he’s having.
Now there are a lot of causes or issues that are potentially in play, but I suspect that a key one is a classic: “I am not happy with some part of my life, so if something were different, everything would be better.” This is something that I’ve seen a lot, often from (but by no means exclusive to) people Of A Certain Age. The underlying belief is that one’s satisfaction is due to current circumstances, so if you make a significant change — usually something suitably dramatic like changing careers without warning, buying a luxury car, ending your marriage, redecorating your apartment, moving to an entirely different town etc. — then everything would be better.
The problem, unfortunately, is that this is often an article of faith, rather than one of experience. It’s the sort of thing that feels like a decision borne out of careful consideration, but in reality is usually a snap judgement that folks will cling to like a drowning man to a log in a river… usually unware that he’s about to go careening over Dead Man’s Falls and onto the rocks below. And, again, because it’s more of an article of faith, the person who comes to this decision will often want to act on it NOW NOW NOW NOW because it’s very clearly the solution to all of their life’s problems.
In practice, however, the reason why folks often will want to act on this as quickly as possible is because they want to act on it before further consideration causes the bloom to fade on this particular ill-conceived rose. If they stop to think about it, then they’d realize that no, this is actually a really bad idea and is only going to make things worse. In fact, more than a few folks have had moments like this before and have either seen their dream wither and die if they hesitate, or they’ve done it before and it didn’t help. But like someone convinced that the slot machine is finally about to pay out, they want to believe that this time it’ll all work out exactly as they’d hoped.
Unfortunately, what folks often find out is that while surface may have changed, the underlying causes of their dissatisfaction haven’t. You can’t run fast enough to get away from yourself, not when the call is coming from inside the house. So all that has happened is that their solution means that now they have two problems.
There’s also a potential side issue here: a lot of times, this sort of impulsive behavior can be the result of conditions like ADHD. With ADHD, one’s hyperfocus may engage on a concept or an idea, rather than a particular activity or interest and it takes up all the available bandwidth in your mind. This means that folks will lock onto that idea like a pitbull on unattended rashers of bacon and get incredibly pi
y if people don’t help enable them with this.
Under other circumstances, what your husband wants isn’t entirely unreasonable. Finding a place where your money goes further, especially with a lower or more sustainable standard of living isn’t the worst idea in the world. The potential benefits of a less stressful lifestyle or a region where you’re a better cultural fit can be immense. And depending on whether it is possible for you to run your business remotely, it wouldn’t necessarily be too disruptive to your career in the process.
Where this all goes off the rails is his insistence that not only does this need to be done in three months, that any resistance is tantamount to a personal insult and the fact that he has apparently done absolutely no prep-work to make this a feasible option. Any one of these would be a red flag. ALL of them at once isn’t just a red flag, it’s more red flags than the Running of the Bulls in Pamplona. And this is unreasonable. It’s one thing to take time to consider the possibility of moving, to weigh the pros and cons and do some preliminary legwork to see how feasible it would be. It’s another to demand that everyone up stakes with no warning, like he’s Pa Ingalls and y’all just got kicked out of the Kansas territories.
The part that most sets off my Spidey-sense is his absolutist, all-or-nothing/with-me-or-against-me stance he seems to be taking. That… really isn’t good. Under the most generous interpretation, those ultimatums and insistence that you’re being selfish or unsupportive comes across as the result of long-simmering resentment about something. Under less generous interpretations… it comes across as quasi-abusive. His framing this as “you’d do it if you really loved me”, downplaying both your sweat-equity investment in your firm and the growing success and his getting hostile and abusive about any resistance to his plan is disturbing. His not trusting that you’d move to join him after things were settled is even more so. That might speak volumes to how he views your relationship… and not in a good way.
If this is a sudden change — something completely out of character for him — then I’d be worried that it’s a sign of an emergent mental health issue. If this has been building over time, then I’d be more worried that it is a “frog in a boiling pot” scenario, where everything seemed fine until it wasn’t.
I think that moving just to placate him would be a horrible idea. The potential disruption to your life, your career and your kid’s life would be immense, on top of the financial drain that would come from losing your health insurance and your husband’s income. Moving with no real plan in place and no groundwork (like a professional network, a job offer in hand, etc) is a hell of a risk under the best of circumstances. When your partner is throwing tantrums over it? That’s not just no, that’s a HELL no. That’s a very good way to ensure that your marriage won’t make it through the move. It may not die as soon as you get there, but you’d almost certainly be condemning it to a long, slow and lingering death, like an inoperable emotional tumor.
Honestly, I would suggest a cautious approach. Agree to consider the move (not agree to, consider) under two conditions: first, he has to have the preparations laid out in advance. That means at least a solid job prospect for him, investingating the housing market and availability, the infrastructure that would make it possible for you to run your business remotely and so on. That may also mean finding a way to let your daughter finish out middle-school where you currently live and then join you when she’s ready to start high-school.
Second: you go to couple’s counseling. That part has to be non-negotiable. The way he’s acting has damaged the relationship, and if you want your marriage to survive the stress of uprooting your entire lives to go back east, then he needs to put in the work to help fix things. And to be clear: that’s on him. He’s not acting rationally or reasonably, and his being this aggressive and hostile about it is reason to be concerned. And hopefully, couple’s counseling would encourage him to go to solo counseling, so he can get to the root of just what it is that makes it so vital that he flee the west coast.
If he fights you on either of those conditions, then the answer is an automatic “no”; you’re not going to be bullied or browbeaten into moving when the potential costs are this high. And if he continues to be this aggressively antagonistic about it? Then it’s time to put some very serious thought into whether you and your daughter can safely stay in this relationship with him. If it gets to that point, I’d say it’s time to tell him to get the hell out; maybe, maybe he can come back once he’s fixed whatever’s eating at him, but not a moment before.
And even that would still be under probation at best.
It’s a s--tty situation to be stuck in, TTP. I hope you can resolve this happily and safely.
Good luck.
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