DEAR DR. NERDLOVE: I’ve been an enormous fan of yours for a while. From my perspective, your works (online dating books in particular) make it easier to navigate the material barriers to say the technologically not savvy. I bring up barriers for a specific reason, as you shall read.
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I met a woman at my best friend’s wedding. It’s his stepsister and we felt a connection pretty quickly. After giving me her number, three weeks passed, and we went on an introductory date which by all accounts was great. So the thing is, she is a mother, a divorcee with two kids and has a female roommate who helps with everything!
In my brief experience with one-and-two-week flings in college, I have not had a chance to date a single parent before in any capacity. On one hand, it feels objectively logical as I consider myself a somewhat emotionally mature person. My own family comes from part of the complication of divorce, stepparents, my grandfather working 6 months up in the arctic to send money back home to the kids (that’s Canada in the 60’s for you).
The key point is, without judging anyone divorced, my grandparents’ relationships and relationship mistakes made my father and mother’s relationship emotionally healthier. Not saying that divorce and big families are NOT healthy, but the challenges of big families of dirt-poor country folk, those challenges lead my own parents to make different decisions for my family that allowed us to develop a radical closeness and transparency that lead to my own self perceived emotional maturity and intelligence. Needless to say, I’m friends with my parents – so why can’t I be a friend to a parent in my age group?
Well, it’s one thing to have an experience and understand another person’s experience. So, I absolutely first of all respect that as this is a new relationship, I come second to this new person’s children. That is tantamount to my values and frankly, if she dropped everything to see me all the time, I would be very suspicious, especially since we just met each other.
Now that being said, we set up a time to have a voice call and the call never happened, and it was about a week and a half before she finally got back to me. I started to feel anxious because, you know, meet someone and there is suddenly silence. I was preparing for rejection, but in the back of my mind, given that it’s November and kids are germ bags, I figured “Well hold on, maybe something is up.”
Frankly, when I started to go down the road of what ifs, I thought to myself what if something catastrophic happened – but this is not to find a problem, it’s to assert in my anxiety that if something did happen – I can’t expect her to get back to me right away. I just want to make clear, I did not actually believe it, it’s just a way to shut up the “what if it’s me?” part of my brain.
So while I feel I have a handle on how to emotionally accept I’m second banana, I’m still going to face new challenges dating someone divorced with kids. Whether that be an ex-partner who makes life challenging for this person I’m seeing, the demands of raising children, limited time for dates or dates abruptly ending, or a different pace of intimacy, I’m curious as someone with little experience, what can I expect dating a single parent.
Appreciate the love.
First Time Mother Lover
DEAR FIRST TIME MOTHER LOVER: Right off the bat, FTML: accept that you know very little on the topic and that what you think you know isn’t necessarily going to apply. Your closeness and relationship to your parents – whom are in a significantly different stage of life – isn’t going to translate to practical or functional knowledge about connecting with a peer who happens to also be a parent. The foundational relationship is going to be profoundly different, and those credits just aren’t going to transfer. Recognizing that and not making a bunch of assumptions about what you can expect will make everything flow a lot more smoothly.
There’re two major branches of challenges when it comes to dating a single parent, FTML. The first is logistical; having kids means that they’re going to be the higher priority, which also means that your options for planning dates or seeing your sweetie are going to be contingent on what free time she has, what arrangements she can make and how much energy she may have.
It also means that your plans are going to vary wildly based around factors that are outside of anybody’s control. Kids, especially young children, are chaos magnets and there is no way to meaningfully anticipate or prepare for all the ways that they could detonate your plans or dates.
The second challenge is to remember that, while yes, they may be a single parent, they’re still an individual. They’re an individual with a child or children, yes, but they’re a person, same as anyone else. Parent modifies person, it doesn’t transform them into an entirely different beast.
I mention this because people can overcomplicate otherwise fairly straightforward situations, especially if they’re young and/or haven’t had a lot of dating experience themselves. It’s very easy to get lost in the what-ifs of it all or the anxiety about “what it all means”, or what your potential partner wants or is looking for. There’re a lot of folks who worry that dating a single parent, especially if that parent has primary custody, means that they’re signing up for more than just, y’know, dating someone. There’s a common fear, especially when dating single mothers, that they’re looking for a new father, or that they’re going to be single-minded in looking for someone who’s ready to settle down right now.
Most of the time, this isn’t a factor, especially in the early days. Most single parents who are on the dating market aren’t looking for someone to help raise their kids or be an ATM with legs. More often than not, they’re just like everyone else – they want to go out, socialize and have a good time. Some folks are going to be looking for something committed and long-term, others are looking for something fun but not serious… just like people who don’t have children. And, quite honestly, the people who are interested in a committed relationship are more likely to want to take things at a measured pace before even hitting milestones like “introducing the new beau to their children”.
(For some, this also tends to bring up questions of “well, what if I want children of my own” or feelings about “raising someone else’s kids”, and the occasional “but if we get married, is she’s going to be open to having children with me” and it’s close cousin “…and will I favor my biological child over my stepchild?”, but this is also beside the point for you.)
With this in mind, I think you may be looking a little too far down the line from where you currently are with this woman. I can appreciate wanting to be ready for potential problems, but I think you should slow your roll a bit. If you’re too focused on what comes up down the line, you’re going to end up borrowing trouble from the future and missing out on things now… including more relevant, more pressing issues.
After all, these are early days, and I think that focusing on anything more than “I like her, does she like me” is putting the cart before the horse. You’ve had precisely one (1) date so far. I can appreciate wanting to game things out and to try to anticipate as many possible conflicts as you can, but frankly, you’re over your skis on this. Most of the challenges you’re likely to face when dating a single parent are things that are much further down the relationship track, and you’re not even on a second date yet.
I think the biggest thing for you is to focus on getting to know this woman as a person, with an emphasis on “are we even compatible?”, without getting too hung up on the ‘single parent’ label. You don’t know each other well enough to know her favorite drink, never mind what it would mean to have a relationship with someone who has two kids. The biggest hurdle you’re facing currently is that any relationship with her, platonic or romantic, is going to necessitate more flexibility and a higher level of tolerance for sudden last-minute emergencies, rain checks and reschedules than on average. As I said: kids generate chaos and Murphy’s Law shall be the whole of the Law – whatever can go wrong probably will. Babysitters won’t be available, the kids get sick, there’re issues with school, extracurriculars, sleepovers, etc. that will likely blow a massive whole in even the most anticipated or best-laid plans.
You’ve already gotten a taste of how plans can go haywire when she missed the call you all had planned. You can expect to have more experiences like that going forward, simply because, well, kids. If that’s not something you’re able to handle, or that’s going to trigger anxiety weasels, then this likely isn’t going to be a good match for you. And to be clear: it’s fine if that’s the case. That doesn’t mean that you’ve done something wrong or that you’re insufficiently patient or mature; it just means that this is a price-of-entry that would be more than you would be willing to pay. And that is completely fair. You’re allowed to say that this would be a dealbreaker for you, even if it’s completely understandable.
It’s also important to note that while her children will dictate her availability, that doesn’t mean that you’re necessarily “second banana” or otherwise unimportant… or at least that you won’t be as this relationship grows and deepens. Having to give her kids priority in her scheduling or considering them when she considers choices in her life doesn’t mean that you’re lesser – which you kind of imply in your phrasing.
I know that it seems sensible to go in with that attitude, but it also runs the risk of presuming to know her mind better than she does. Just because the kids may blow holes in your plans doesn’t mean that she doesn’t care, or that you aren’t a priority. It means that she’s in a position where the responsibility to her kids has to take priority, regardless of how she may feel about it. That’s something that will be less of an issue as the kids get older and have more independence, but that doesn’t take away from how she feels (or rather, would feel) for you.
Look at it this way: if you have to cancel a vacation because of a family issue, that doesn’t mean that the vacation was playing “second banana”. It means that some things take precedent over others, especially when you have a responsibility for them. Don’t presume to know how she feels based on whether she has children or not; that way lies all sorts of mistakes.
Which actually brings me to my next point. There’s trying to be accommodating and then there’s turning yourself into a doormat for no good reason, and I think that’s a bigger issue for you right now.
See, you have run into an issue that I think warrants proceeding with caution – both in terms of her behavior, but also possibly you’re giving too much leeway over her being a single parent. And that’s her having apparently ghosted you on that planned call. In and of itself, that’s not that big of a deal. Or at least it wouldn’t be, if there hadn’t been such a gap between when you were supposed to hear from her and when you did.
If I’m being honest, the fact that it took her a week and change to get back to you is more concerning than any potential pitfalls from being a single parent. It speaks more to how things are now, rather than what might happen in the future. Having to cancel or change plans last minute is one thing; a complete no-show and not even so much as a “whoops, sorry…” is another. I know how quickly s—t can go sideways, but one would think a quick text saying “hey, things came up, reschedule?” wouldn’t be out of the question. Even allowing for the most generous reading, that still strikes me as being inconsiderate on her part.
At the same time, there’s understanding that kids blow holes in plans and schedules, and being so understanding that you don’t even say “um, thought we had a call scheduled, everything ok?” I think a text to say “hey, what’s going on?” was warranted. You are allowed to point out that you had made plans, and she just breezed by them without a word or backwards glance. Yes, her time is often limited and you’re not necessarily going to be her top priority, but that doesn’t mean that you’ve given up the right to advocate for yourself, either… even if it’s just to say “hey, haven’t heard from you, what’s up?”
On the other hand, however, you don’t mention whether you reached out to her and got radio silence, or if you just decided to sit back until she got in touch with you, first. If you just decided to wait to hear from her, then you may have made things a little more fraught. Not hearing from you for a week and a half could well have made her wonder whether you were interested. If she realized that she completely flaked on calling you, but then realized she hadn’t heard from you since? I think she’d be justified in questioning how you felt about her.
So, while I appreciate you might want to be understanding and wanting to go with the flow, it’s possible to err so far in trying to be reasonable and considerate that you end up causing more problems than you would have if you just said “um, hey, about that…”
So the TL;DR of it is: don’t worry about the “single mom” label until it’s more than just an issue about availability and logistics. Your relationship isn’t there yet and likely won’t be for a while. At the same time, don’t forget that you also have needs and you are allowed to advocate for those needs. And don’t presume to know her mind – and don’t act on those presumptions – just because she has kids. That way leads to taking actions that may not be warranted based on incomplete or mistaken beliefs, rather than how she actually thinks or feels.
Otherwise, take your time, get to know her and focus on the here and now. There will be time to focus on a future that’s further away than the next couple of weekends… but that time is not now.
Good luck.
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